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by dralley 1119 days ago
Apple has always been preferential to reference counting (see Objective C) and it seems like they may have spent a fair bit of effort optimizing Apple Silicon for it.
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> it seems like they may have spent a fair bit of effort optimizing Apple Silicon for it

According to information released when the M1 came out: retaining and releasing an NSObject takes ~30 nanoseconds on current gen Intel, and ~6.5 nanoseconds on an M1

It's good to reduce the cache hot best case time of course but isnt the more fundamental sin of RC in the extra read/write memory traffic, cache footprint and cross core cache line ping pong when incrementing object refcount fields.

(or if going with BRC, correspondingly there shouldn't be a advantages for this custom CPU feature)

Reference counting on Objective-C was plan B, after the failure of implementing a safe tracing GC in a language with C's semantics.

So they went with plan B, having the compiler automate the retain/release messages used by the Cocoa framework.

Everywhere else in Objective-C, the memory is still manually managed, or via memory pools.