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by CapstanRoller 1129 days ago
How so?

We don't know of any cure for depression, but with ketamine we have an effective rapid treatment.

Ketamine has a great therapeutic range, a well-understood side effect profile, and can bring a patient back from the brink of suicide in a matter of hours. It's also incredibly inexpensive to produce, on par with aspirin. Why shouldn't we use it?
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36933 1129 days ago
That’s the thing. We don’t know a cure, but we know of people who were cured. We just don’t really know how or why, scientifically speaking. And as far as I know there was never someone getting cured from t1 diabetes. That’s what I meant by apples and oranges.

Ketamine or suffering & death? Ketamine no question. I agree, but it’s not so black and white how you may perceive it. It might be ketamine or death for you, I don’t know. For me it was certainly. So sorry, if it is for you now. I’m not telling you it’s bad or that you shouldn’t do it. Do whatever you think is the best for you. I went through all of that and found other methods of treatment actually effective of solving the root causes of my suffering and not just the symptoms. Meditation, somatic experiencing and mdma therapy[1] are the main methods I found the most effective, in no particular order.

I’m not looking to argue about your choice of treatment. If you want to share your experience or hear mine, give me a way to contact you. Have a good night/day. [1]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3

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valec 1129 days ago
your link is for PTSD, not depression. no studies have come out so far showing MDMA has any effectiveness in depression. the proposed mechanism for PTSD involves serotonin release leading to heightened extinction of fear memory in the hippocampus and amygdala. no reason to believe necessarily this will help with depression.
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36933 1128 days ago
you sure there is no reason? MDD can be a subtype of PTSD.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4518698/

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CapstanRoller 1128 days ago
Ketamine saved my life, but I also know people who say MDMA saved their life (and I believe it).

In my case, MDMA would not have been the appropriate treatment.

All of the things we are discussing have value and a role in mental health care. It doesn't have to be a contest.

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