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by ChuckNorris89 1132 days ago
>pay very little to do

Not in Europe. Since FAANG level jobs aren't that numerous here compared to US so the difference between embedded and non-embedded work is close to zero. Pay is pretty similar.

Add sure, but if your only target in life is working for FAANG & Co. then every other tech job in the world pays very little.

You might as well also not want to be a doctor, teacher, lawyer, as well because hey, FAANG pays better. Everyone should abandon their passions and career dreams and become devs for FAANGs because pay is everything that matters in a career.
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fest 1132 days ago
Yeah, I work in a robotics company in Europe- our embedded people are paid essentially the same as web/enterprise software developers in the same market. Definitely a lot less remote Opportunities (though usually for institutional reasons- most of the work can be done remotely, if company is organized for that- which not a lot are).

EEs are IMHO underpaid in both sides of the pond though.

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AnimalMuppet 1132 days ago
Embedded can be remote, if the hardware is small enough and cheap enough to ship one to each remote developer.

I worked on telephones for the hard of hearing, and we had some remote developers. No problem.

On the other hand, there are embedded systems that are for 3D printing spaceship hulls. I kind of suspect that remote isn't going to fly for working on those systems...

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eschneider 1132 days ago
You can probably do (most) of that remotely. If you're writing embedded systems that can't be 95% tested off the hardware, you're living in unnecessary pain.

I work on devices bigger than a car and sure, occasionally I have to visit the 'office', but almost everything can be debugged and tested remotely.

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fest 1132 days ago
Yes, remote access to test units (if practical, I.e. more than one instance of system exists) or the real one, simulated h/w for higher level software (i.e. a GUI that connects to simulated device instead of real one).

Obviously there will always be some physical component to embedded development, but in many cases it is possible to do a lot remotely.

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tpmx 1132 days ago
> EEs are IMHO underpaid in both sides of the pond though.

Because of EEs in PRC and Taiwan with relatively speaking much lower salaries for about the same level of competency [who also have native-level access to the design/supply ecosystem over there].

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i_am_a_peasant 1132 days ago
If you're in Germany I'd like to get in on that. :P
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