[maeon3]

Stopping the entity from functioning is exactly what it is supposed to do. It's selected into the genome because that entity gets help without hi tech medications. I've been very depressed, and never took drugs, I picked myself up and fixed my damn problem. I don't like the quickness that doctors will screw with the machinary of the mind with drugs. Its like a caveman working to fix a harrier jet with his club.

[jawn]

At first I thought maybe I was a little hasty, in calling you a fucking idiot. Now I'm glad that you have reaffirmed my initial suspicions.

[gruseom]

Please don't do this.

I'm interested in this topic, and might have spent some time reading the thread, but when I see stuff like this I just bail.

[jawn]

Your poor reading experience...

Some times people need tobe told harshly they're being an idiot.

[nitrogen]

I don't like the quickness that doctors will screw with the machinary of the mind with drugs.

The machinery of the mind is chemicals. Drugs are chemicals. When a chemical machine malfunctions, chemical treatments are not unreasonable.

At any rate, this comment is probably being downvoted for this line:

I picked myself up and fixed my damn problem.

Edit: also this: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Typical_mind_fallacy

Based on everything I've read from others who have talked about clinical depression, it sounds like there is no picking oneself up. The metaphorical train has gone so far off track that its conductor doesn't even remember what tracks look like.

[pyre]

  > I've been very depressed, and never took drugs, I
  > picked myself up and fixed my damn problem.

This is the equivalent of saying:

"I've been running Windows for 15 years, and never had a blue-screen-of-death, therefore anyone that has issues with a blue-screen-of-death is either lying or a fucking moron. My anecdote proves that Windows is 100% stable 100% of the time."

[hack_edu]

There is a lot more to the science of depression than simply being down for a bit. Thats part of the cycle of everyone's life, at some point. Everyone self medicates.

Depression is so often a side-effect of other, real, mental disorders. These aren't things you can 'pick yourself up from' and walk it off. Doctors 'screw with the mind' of consenting adults who agree that they have a problem and are trying exactly to 'pick themselves up.'

You should expand your notion of a drug and what treatment is, along with the machinery of the mind. Depression is caused by drugs in your own mind, which are so much more complicated and nuanced than the pharmaceuticals one would take to offset them.