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by Timon3 1127 days ago
> The great replacement is a supposed conspiracy yet everyone in here complains how raising children is too expensive, how immigrants are imported to fill in for the missing people and how they accept wages lower than what natives would accept.

> But somehow putting three simple facts together makes you a white nationalist.

This is pretty easy to understand - the important part of the conspiracy theory, and the one your three simple facts are missing, is: there is no conspiracy to do these things. Yes, people in developed countries have below-replacement birth rates, but is that because there is a cabal of evil people trying to genocide them? Or is it due to numerous individual decisions by individual actors creating economic and social circumstances which lead to lower birth rates?

Same goes for your other points. There are simple, logical and realistic explanations that don't need some grand conspiracy to make sense. If you still choose to look for the evil cabal who want to destroy white people, what are you, if not a conspiracy theorist?

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False dichotomy! There can be structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences and also don't resort to blaming an imagined cabal of lizard-men.
> False dichotomy! There can be structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences and also don't resort to blaming an imagined cabal of lizard-men.

What dichotomy am I proposing? I simply said that there is not one evil group conspiring against white people. It's possible that there are multiple groups with nefarious intent (e.g. to suppress wages, or to extract more money from the population), but surely we can all agree that the idea of "The great replacement" is ludicrous? Did this site drift so far to the right that even this statement is now controversial?!

"structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences" aren't necessarily conspiracies. The mere confluence of interests and incentives does not form a conspiracy.

The premise of replacement theory is that "the elites" are willfully and actively conspiring to replace white people, culturally and politically, with non-whites and eventually render the white race extinct. That they're doing it on purpose. Meeting in dark, smoke-filled rooms and planning it out.

Regardless, even in the absence of an active and willfull conspiracy, interpreting socioeconomic trends through the lens of race is still racist. Being concerned that globalism and immigration suppresses "native" wages isn't racist - but people need to learn in that case that what they hate isn't immigrants, but capitalism, because that's just efficient markets doing exactly what they're supposed to do. Being concerned that globalism and immigration suppressing "native" wages is an effort to commit white genocide and destroy white culture is what makes it racist.

There is no conspiracy to steal people's wages? Gee then why do big tech firms get caught doing it every few years: https://phys.org/news/2015-09-415m-settlement-apple-google-w...
> There is no conspiracy to steal people's wages?

How did you get that from what I wrote? I legitimately have no idea. Do you think that "The great replacement" is about wage suppression?