[throwuwu]

So “Super-Alt-Right-Con” actually means just regular conservative as far as I can tell from reading the page you linked. How are the two different in your mind? Genuinely curious what your definitions are since this is confusing as an outsider.

[ajross]

This is leaning on "regular" too hard. Certainly there are lots of nice conservative people who don't performatively sneer at queer folks. Lots of trans kids have grandparents who love them but still vote republican. "Regular" people aren't, in the general case, assholes.

What's true is that "median" political discourse in conservative circles has swung pretty hard on the sneering side over the past few years. But this doesn't so much reflect the views of "regular" voters as it does an attempt to use this as a wedge issue to pry a small handful of voters from the other side.[1] But "median" discourse is aimed at a tiny fraction of the population! "Regular" politics is boring, so no one reports that stuff. Only voter-motivating controversies make their way into press conference material.

[1] Basically: there are a lot of people, mostly older voters, who hate gender pronouns and all the new social conventions, but who might otherwise be tempted to vote for a democrat.

[malfmalf]

Sorry, was trying to use an US "definition", I might have failed at that.

In Europe everyone who needs to state that things so seriously is usually a fascist nutjob. Not that you can not hold some of that views (well the guns one is definitely US-centric) , I myself may be not so far from some of them (as they are stated, which seems like a trap) but if you need to make them the issues to die on a hill for... yes you are really, really leaning fascist.

[HDThoreaun]

We are certainly in a transitionary period, but "regular conservative" generally means fiscally conservative with maybe some light religious stuff in the US, or at least used to. The list of "based" opinions were all socially conservative takes.

[throwuwu]

It’s odd that you need to use “conservative” in pointing to socially conservative then. Are conservative politicians not allowed to be socially conservative? Who represents people with those beliefs if not?

[HDThoreaun]

Labels can be tough.

> Who represents people with those beliefs if not?

Generally what people would consider to be alt-right politicians, although the alt-right is basically the mainstream powerhouse of the republican party now so maybe we're due for some new labels. Perhaps the better question is "who represents people with "regular conservative" beliefs and I guess the answer is people like Joe Manchin and Romney.