[avgcorrection]

History whitewashing. The right to vote was won/taken by people who fought for it. “The state” (?) then doesn’t get credit for “granting” it, as if the state was the from-nothing cause.

That kind of nonsense might be how some theoriticians discuss such things. But no normal person cares about that.

[Eisenstein]

Excuse me, but you don't earn yourself the right to vote by fighting for it until you take it. However it came about in law, it is granted to you. Whether it was fought for or not, your forefathers do not come back from the grave and allow you to have it after you pass some ritual test -- the state grants it to you when you turn a certain age. In fact, voting would be completely pointless if there were no 'state' to grant it. Making this into some sort of weird history lesson and berating "the state" (?) is not helpful.

[avgcorrection]

> Excuse me, but you don't earn yourself the right to vote by fighting for it until you take it.

I didn’t say that I earned it.

> Making this into some sort of weird history lesson and berating "the state" (?) is not helpful.

Weird? It’s about the causal origin of rights, i.e. history.

Weird philosophy lessons on “rights” are not helpful.

[Eisenstein]

This makes no sense. If you didn't earn them, then what does 'earn' mean? Other people cannot earn something for you.