[testHNac]

On Social Media I like how people like to 'Travel' and are also lecturing others on saving the environment.

https://smartdestination.travel/impact-of-climate-change-on-....

Reality is everyone wants to save the environment, no one wants to sacrifice for it. They justify their indulgence in consumerism and wastage by saying they bought something eco friendly.

Yeah, right. That's going to fix everything.

[peoplefromibiza]

To add a personal anecdote.

I have been saying to my friends for at least 15 years that if they really cared about the environment flushing the toilete using drinkable water and having two showers a day was probably the most stupid thing people could do to not save it.

I've been called names for the past 15 years, until influencers started advocating for cooking pasta using cold water to save energy or selling your old clothes on vinted to make their life longer and everyone is now on board with all that stupid sh*t.

I believe we mostly deserve what's happening and that it's not as bad as it looks, if people won't come out better from this, than we'll have proof that extinction is the solution.

Except the majority of the people on the planet did not contribute in a meaningful way and maybe it's time we put them in charge, instead of us.

We clearly failed when it actually mattered.

OTOH I also strongly believe it's not in human nature to sacrifice, we are good at adapting and that's what we'll do, we'll live in a worse environment for our life but we'll survive and we'll be mostly content nonetheless.

[mmphosis]

If I had actually had the power to make necessary changes, I would. I hold governments, legacy industries and an “establishment” shareholder class responsible for not being able to make sacrifices. My discussion isn’t going to change anything, increasing extreme weather events might, but so far it seems mostly business as usual.

[melling]

Not sure how they come up with the numbers for tourism. 100,000 flights a day, every day of the year add up to 2-2.5% of emissions for example.

I suppose if you take a gas powered taxi, stay in a hotel that gets energy from fossil fuels, buy souvenirs that are made in factories that use fossil fuels, …

Are you getting the point?

If you don’t take a trip and stay home with the heat and lights on, drive your gas car, buy other things from other factories powered by fossil fuel, …

Fix the root of the problem and many of the issues go away.

Then we can stop having these stupid conversations. As was explained half a century ago when the world population was half of today’s 8 billion: “sacrificing won’t fix the problem”

[bryanlarsen]

I'd love to pay a few hundred dollars per plane ticket extra to cover its externalities, as long as everybody else has to do the same.