[CalRobert]

It's not about whether your kids will cause climate change. It's about creating children just in time for them to suffer through the collapse of civilisation.

[fileeditview]

The collapse of civilization is happening since the dawn of civilization.

Jokes aside, I have heard both points made. Yours and the one from the parent poster.

[CalRobert]

We had pretty stable temperatures from the dawn of civilization (the end of the last ice age) until about 30 years ago.

[themaninthedark]

From 1300 ~ about 1700 there was a "little" ice age that cuased widespread famine and cultural disruption.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Yes, the current temperature shift now is greater but it has been ongoing for a much shorter period of time.

[crooked-v]

> but it has been ongoing for a much shorter period of time

That's worse, not better! https://xkcd.com/1732/

[revelio]

We did not, that's the famously debunked hockey-stick graph claim.

Temperature has varied drastically throughout time. There were Vikings growing barley in Greenland, something completely impossible today. The reason you believe otherwise is because climate doomers lie a lot.