[mrcrumb1]

Vaccines on a population level are less risky than the illnesses they prevent and generally reduce death and healthcare costs to society. This is true of both the flu and COVID vaccines. There's a nonzero chance that you'll feel worse with the vaccine than with the illness, there's also a nonzero chance that:a) someone else getting a vaccine has helped you not get sick and b) having gotten the vaccine could prevent serious harm in the case of illness. You can bet against those outcomes but your odds get worse and worse as you get older.

[valianteffort]

My gripe was them claiming the vaccine would prevent you from getting or spreading covid despite knowing that was not true.

It has now devolved to the vaccine will make covid suck less if you get it, there's a non-zero risk of complication from the vaccine, and lets just not talk about transmissibility.