[manuelabeledo]

> They aren't nonexistent, although that's frequently assumed on this site.

It seems to me that those who want to return to offices are a bit like the target market for the iPhone Mini: a very vocal minority.

And they are a minority indeed [0]. In fact, if the average HN poster was a white male, the RTO crowd would be overrepresented and thus it would explain that, in each one of these debates, there is always a good bunch claiming that in person office work is great.

[0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-post-pandemic-offic...

[RestlessMind]

> It seems to me that those who want to return to offices are a bit like the target market for the iPhone Mini: a very vocal minority.

YMMV. It seems to me that "zealots" on either spectrum (fully remote or fully office) are vocal minorities. Most of the people seem to prefer hybrid, where they get to go to office a few days a week and spend time WFH a few days.

HN crowd seems to have a lot of vocal proponents of fully-remote work.

[manuelabeledo]

> Most of the people seem to prefer hybrid, where they get to go to office a few days a week and spend time WFH a few days.

The numbers given don't seem to back that up.

Either way, the hybrid model is also polarizing, as it proves ineffective over time when people go to the office in non overlapping days, effectively turning going to the office into the same experience as working from home, just away from it.

[FullyFunctional]

While hybrid works for me, only fully-remote enables you to move far away from the office and, potentially, significantly improve your quality of life. I totally get why people feel so strongly about it.

My annecdata is that I feel far more productive (concentrated) at home, but going in 1-2 times a week is very important for incidental communication that can have important consequences. I currently manage a fully remote intern, but we have him come ~ two days every month. So far this seems to work.