[neurobama]

This is a pointless observation since the male/female difference is the approximately equal for all races. In contrast, black women in the US commit more murders per capita than do white men: 5.8 versus 3.5 per 100k, as of 2021 per the FBI/Department of Justice. Black women are the only female group with this distinction compared to the male ethnic majority in the US, and all other countries of which I am aware.

[geysersam]

Meanwhile, homicide rate for men in Germany is about 2 per 100k. This shows that socio-economical factors easily explain the differences.

[neurobama]

It does not. Americans have a median income roughly 10% higher than Germans, far more guns per capita than Germans, and nearly 40% of male homicide suspects in Germany are non-German in any case:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101485/non-german-crime...

By the way, if we only consider non-Hispanic whites (this is a state-defined census category) America's homicide rate is 2.2:

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/21/how-amer...

[geysersam]

> median income roughly 10% higher than Germans, far more guns per capita than Germans

Yes, the kind of stuff called soci-economic factors.

> 40% of male homicide suspects in Germany are non-German

Okay to the homocide rate of "real" Germans is about 40% lower then?

Can you not just accept that "white" (however you like to define the term presently) men commit significantly more murders in America than in Germany?

[neurobama]

>Can you not just accept that "white" (however you like to define the term presently) men commit significantly more murders in America than in Germany?

Sure, I agree and I'm pointing out reasons as to why that is. I have never before heard gun policy lumped in with "socioeconomic factors."

My original point is that socioeconomic factors alone don't explain the gap in murder rates between e.g. black women and white men in the US and in other countries. Your argument to the contrary is woefully insufficient. Comparisons between the same race and sex in two similar cultures at similar income levels isn't enough.

We already know wealth and income correlate somewhat with crime. This effect is seen within racial groups. What we don't know is why large gaps exist between different groups at similar income levels. The effect is particularly stark and peculiar when it comes to violent crimes e.g. rape which have nothing to do with stealing to feed oneself.

[tomlockwood]

It's not a pointless observation. If we restricted immigration to women only, violence perpetrated by immigrants would drop somewhere north of 90%.

[ggm]

Violence perpetrated ON immigrants however, would inevitably rise since the same statistical validity applied to most women being the victims of violence.

[neurobama]

>women being the victims of violence.

What sort of violence are we talking about? Men are murdered far more often than women across the globe, at a ratio of about 4 to 1:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender

Men are slightly more likely than women to experience domestic violence in the US, per the CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey:

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs/NISVSReport...

However, woman are about twice as likely to become victims of sexual violence:

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfa...

[tomlockwood]

> What sort of violence are we talking about? Men are murdered far more often than women across the globe, at a ratio of about 4 to 1:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender

You know this just seems like male on male violence to me ;)

[neurobama]

Hundreds of black men have died violent deaths because of bad policy written by those who, like you, avert their eyes from reality when it suits them:

https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1651437800842223616

Granted, they don't always do it with a droll non-sequitur.

[tomlockwood]

What reality do you think I'm averting my eyes from?

[jankyxenon]

How does the value of reduced immigrant crime stack up against the cost of skewing the sex balance in a country?

[selcuka]

It's a statistical thought experiment, nobody (who is sane) is claiming that it would be a good thing.

[jankyxenon]

Check OP I’m responding too. His question is why racists don’t call for a male immigration ban - not a statistical thought experiment.

[selcuka]

I believe they are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the racist rant. Racists claim that the reason they are against immigration from certain countries because of the increase in crime rate they would allegedly bring.