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by rektide 1136 days ago
There's a lot of good heart here & I dig it.

But the web isn't just for documents & exploring content. Or the content is complex & interesting & rightfully semi dynamic.

I really worry & grow concerned when people impose their quasi-religious beliefs about what the web is for. There's absolutely real harm & bad, and much of it comes from the crazy institutional/industrial nature of software development and many of our current tools have degraded the humanness of the web. The harms are real.

But so many people for so many widely different/opposing reasons want us to abandon HTML, and it's so hard for me to imagine what open society is left with if we move all app development back to native stacks. The Towards A Modern Web Stack view is that app makers can just target the web as a dumb delivery target, with WebGPU & webusb HID instead of html & the html events. They are horseshoe views, that almost meet in agreeing that html shouldn't be for X or shouldn't be for Y.

Identifying problems & desire ables are great. But we seem to have a small but very vocal group that decides & loudly advocates for what we can't use the web for. So so many of these concerns seem implementation & company specific. And these ills- so many of them would best be remedied by getting better at html webdev, by finding different paths to app building, ideally that are more We Component based, that make the page more honest & truthful & manipulable & up front. If we just categorically try to make the web unable to have these problems, humanity will be even less well equipped, have less agency to fight the hydra of capitalist dominion where it arises elsewhere.