[batmansmk]

Yet among the most used apps a lot of them are cross platforms: chrome, ableton live, vscode, figma, any game under the sun, slack, discord, … I would even argue that very few still develop directly with native ui toolkits directly.

[olliej]

You mean the slew of electron apps that are well known to be annoying to use and inconsistent with the rest of the software on a Mac? Games not so much because they aren't using any platform toolkit.

But also "developers using cross platform toolkits because it's cheaper" does not undermine my argument "you can't make good apps", I could make the exact same argument about cross platform Java apps.