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by ShroudedNight 1136 days ago
> "We should kill all the Russians in Ukraine" is different than "we should kill the russians who don't think we are a country."

I think you dropped some nuance. Killing all Russians who are in Ukraine in an effort to violently coerce Ukrainians and their government to comply with the will of the Russian government is different from both "We should kill all the Russians in Ukraine" and "We should kill the Russians who don't think we are a country"
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hayst4ck 1136 days ago
Yes, I was not being careful enough.

"We should kill all the Russians in Ukraine" -> "We should kill all the Russians invading Ukraine." is probably the right phrasing for the question I was asking.

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hutzlibu 1136 days ago
Yes and this is a important distinction, as there are many russians in the ukraine not supporting the invasion. They happen to live there.

And they feel threatened with such statements, as they are sadly way too common.

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Freak_NL 1136 days ago
> the ukraine

You might want to switch to just 'Ukraine' without the 'the' when referring to the country. 'The Ukraine' is an outdated way of referring to the region without conceding that is also a valid and sovereign nation. Since the invasion this term has taken on further connotations.

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hutzlibu 1136 days ago
Yes, that's a valid point, I am usually aware of, but just forgot.
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TheSpiceIsLife 1133 days ago
You two have gone of some bizarre deep end here.

How's about we not kill anyone and find a peaceable solution.

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hayst4ck 1133 days ago
Peace requires justice.

If there is no justice, there can be no peace.

If you support peace in the presence of injustice, you support the injustice.

So it is a good exercise to think about the language we use to describe injustice such as hate speech.

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