[shmatt]

EVs are the way to go right now. Between the "fleet" loophole for federal credits, state credits, free charging for 2-3 years in some cases, discounted charging at night, manufacturers trying to get rid of the EVs that didn't succeed, no sales tax in some states. It's probably 50% cheaper than an ICE car

[Beached]

can you please link an ev that's cheaper than a 26k total cost of ownership over a 10y period(excluding registration) I bought a midsized sedan in 2019, 10y warranty, 17k out the door. I tried to justify the cost of an ev, the cheapest I could find was 32k after credits.

[ZeroGravitas]

This tool lets you explore the space:

https://www.carboncounter.com/#!/explore

Note you can tweak specific rebates and/or gas prices, mileage per year, length of ownership etc. in the advanced options and they have presets for each state.

[bryanlarsen]

If you do 200,000 miles over those 10 years on a 20mpg car with $5/gallon gas, that's $50K in gas for your $17k car. I assume your numbers are lower, but it's not hard to see how TCO for an EV can be cheaper for many.

My electric company just introduced a 2.9c/kWh overnight rate. At 4 miles/kWh, that works out $1450 for 200,000 miles.

[elcano]

With credits, Aisera base model may get close to that number. But you will have to wait for it to be released and there're lots of people in line ahead of you. With that price and their right to repair policy, it is the less risky of the EV startups at this moment.

The link goes to the Launch Edition. But you can edit the options to reduce the sticker price to $25,600.

However, the All-Wheel option is tempting. Nobody needs a 0-60MPH in 3.5 seconds car, but it's very cool, anyway.

https://aptera.us/shop/

Depending on your commuting needs and sun availability in your area you might not need to recharge, ever.

[okdood64]

People don't buy EVs in the US to be economical. That's not a thing yet. It's something for relatively rich people to do as a status symbol or for luxury, since most EVs are fairly luxurious.

[germinalphrase]

Yep. The bottom of the EV market is sparse. Everyone is focusing on the 40k+ market.