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by alphaomegacode 1131 days ago
You can get objective criteria. As someone who lived there until literally months ago for much of my adulthood, there are definitely serious issues for a tech/startup city.

The education system isn't highly rated overall so you'll have to choose carefully if you have kids. Similar if you're depending on a pool of local tech talent.

There was some social media stuff about it being a tech city but that was based on the mayor's Twitter exchange with Elon and then some sort of sales guy in the mayor's office and their hype.

For all the social media blips it generated, no major tech companies have moved any offices there since and many of the local companies are looking to move either upstate to areas like Orlando (or even out of state) to get away from of the Miami issues.

Take objective results like cost of living, rent, education quality (if you have kids it's one measure and hiring is another of course), traffic, crime, average income, etc. Maybe even go and visit for a couple months in the summer since people from up north would sometimes complain about our heat and humidity lol.

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"The education system isn't highly rated overall so you'll have to choose carefully if you have kids."

This is an understatement. Virtually everyone I knew in Florida who had kids sent them to private school. These weren't rich people (they weren't in tech). Anyone who was remotely middle class would find a way to scrap the funds together because the public schools were so horrendous.

True. Forgot about that since most of my family and friends did same and since I was half public and half private myself lol. Sad actually when you think of the tax base and population count.
Why are the schools so bad?
They pay their teachers significantly less than other states. Especially after you factor in the cost of living (FL is not nearly as affordable as people in NY/CA think it is).

According to these sources, they're 4th lowest in teacher salaries despite being 36th lowest in COL: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/teacher-pay... https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/opportunity...

This results in public schools taking whatever they can get teacher-wise. Where I grew up (NJ) being a public school teacher was a respectable career that people would actually go to college and study for. It's not like that in FL. A lot of teachers are just people who couldn't find a job elsewhere and need to pay the bills.

Look at Florida's voterbase and demographics
Would you mind providing more info on why you left? Did the city push you out or did you pursue opportunity elsewhere? Outside of the issues you outlined for tech, how is life there otherwise?
Salaries esp in tech and tech management are much better elsewhere even in the state itself.

Jacksonville I believe was ranked as the fastest growing US metro area but I might be mistaken on that. Orlando is seeing serious and major construction - both residential and even more so commercial.

The traffic is awful but that's a given in I think every major city I've spent months or lived in - DC, Atlanta, etc.

You should take a look at Orlando and Tampa (45 minutes from Orlando) and maybe Jacksonville if you're trying to escape the snow and that type of weather. But if you're committed to moving to South Florida, maybe also look about 30 minutes north of it to Ft Lauderdale and those areas. Tampa/St Petersburg has some great beaches too if you're into beaches.

I don't know what your criteria is but many major tech companies have offices in Miami.

1. Microsoft

2. Google

3. Amazon

4. Facebook

5. Twitter

6. Uber

7. Lyft

8. Visa

9. Mastercard

10. IBM

11. Oracle

12. Cisco

13. Citrix Systems

14. Salesforce

15. SAP

16. Intel

17. Dell