[wongarsu]

The EU is happy to deal with Erdogan. Well, maybe not happy, but willing. The only thing that puts Putin into a category of his own is the Ukraine war. Before that happened, pulling Russia closer to the EU and maybe making them a bit more moderate over the decades was the strategy. Compared anything that happened before and after, the USSR with its hostility towards the rest of Europe was an outlier, just an outlier that Putin seems to be fond of. Now it looks like we have to wait for Putin to leave his position to get back to good relations.

[csomar]

What you got wrong is putting all the blame on Putin. The US has made it clear that it is not accepting that Europe gets its gas from Russia regardless whether Putin is friendly, not in power, or Russia is a democracy. Not everyone agrees with the US stance (Germany went with the pipeline, France/Macron tried to avert the war). It seems that US intelligence has prevailed, however, to the advantage of the US (or their plans at least).

Europe got badly screwed. Now Putin is an enemy forever. And he is not going down since all of Russia's powerful people are on a watch list. They have nowhere to go, and so they might as well stick around to the bitter end.

[hef19898]

The US as well, Turkey is a NATO country after all. Heck, Israel and Turkey are in bad with the Saudis to some extend. If anything, Erdogan isbwilling to deal with Putin (explicitly using the people, not the countries, here). None ofbthat jas anything to do with AI so, does it?