[hammyhavoc]

Modern Pixel phones are made using Google's in-house Tensor chip. They used to just outsource the phones to popular manufacturers. A lot has changed. It's like trying to compare an IBM-manufactured ThinkPad with a modern-day Lenovo-manufactured one.

I also had logic board failure in a MacBook Pro and haven't had a MacBook Pro since, and I haven't had an iPhone since the battery became swollen in my last one. Go figure.

[mattl]

If I have a problem with my iPhone under warranty I can just walk into an Apple Store and speak to a person. The lack of similar options as a consumer with a phone by Google is a reason I don’t recommend anyone get one.

[hammyhavoc]

I can get replacements same-day'd.

Know what the Apple Store in Liverpool told me when I took my Mac Pro into the city center? Come back in two weeks. No parts.

Know what they told me when I came in asking to buy a maxed out top-of-the-line MacBook? You'll have to buy it online, we don't sell those in-store. Same issue with having them work on it; they just didn't have the parts in stock.

Know what they told me when I took my MacBook Pro in with logic board failure? That'll be £700, despite it being a problem with the NVIDIA GPU, prior to their replacement program becoming a thing. No stock either.

If it works for you, that's great, I'm not knocking functioning solutions to actual problems. I know what works for me, and that's not running a Mac in 2023 and instead same-daying replacement components and even doing the sensible thing of running a matched B-rig for anything mission critical, and keeping a spare phone for when the shit really does hit the fan for any reason whatsoever, ergo I'm never phoneless and never need to worry about going to a store during business hours or worrying if I can source a replacement same-day.

[mattl]

I have a feeling some of that may be different in the UK vs the US, but you can rarely buy anything but the base models here too.

[throwaway2056]

Thankfully you are in the USA... + have > 300 in your account when it falls on the floor. Others will get a robust Xiaomi or Moto

- it will survive falling on concrete

- or if lost buy a replacement for $100- $200

It is one thing keeping a $1500 phone for 5 years. (though I have never seem flagship lovers that kept it for 5 years. They are too obsessed with keynote every fall that they buy new every year...)

Others love buying newer when it breaks.

[mattl]

I’m using a 3 year old phone now. Even if I needed to buy a new iPhone today it would be the SE again.

[GeekyBear]

> Modern Pixel phones are made using Google's in-house Tensor chip.

By which you mean "rebranded Samsung Exynos"?

[hammyhavoc]

You are mistaken. https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/xbgg83/comment...

[GeekyBear]

Nope. it's just a semicustom Samsung design:

>In the very fundamentals of what an SoC is, the Google Tensor closely follows Samsung’s Exynos SoC series. Beyond the usual high-level blocks that people tend to talk about in an SoC, such as CPUs, GPUs, NPUs, and other main characteristics, there’s the foundational blocks of a chip: these are the fabric blocks and IP, the clock management architecture, power management architecture, and the design methodology of the implementing those pieces into actual silicon. While on paper, a Samsung Exynos, a MediaTek Dimensity or a HiSilicon Kirin, or even a Qualcomm Snapdragon (on the CPU side) might have similar designs in terms of specifications – with the same high-level IP such as Cortex CPU or Mali GPUs from Arm – the chips will still end up behaving and performing differently because of the underlying SoC architecture is very different.

In the case of the Tensor, this “chassis” builds upon the IP Samsung uses on their Exynos SoCs, utilizing the same clock management and power management architecture. Going further up in the IP hierarchy we find additional similarities among high-level IP blocks, such as memory controllers, fabric IP, PHY IP for all kinds of externally facing interfaces, and even the larger IP functional blocks such as ISP or media decoders/encoders. The fun thing is that these things are now publicly scrutinizeable, and can be compared 1:1 to other Exynos SoCs in terms of their structures.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17032/tensor-soc-performance-...