[Sai_]

I don’t think what is stopping someone from marketing is the lack of tools or templates or guides to follow.

Unless the root cause is addressed - which is my case was that there seemed to be no direct connection between marketing effort and outcomes - every such tool will find a handful of converts and that’ll be that.

The inability to market is a mindset problem, not a tools problem.

[bohlenlabs]

So true. I can totally relate because I had the same problem.

Whenever I write code, it either runs, or does not. It’s my fault, or I could say: it is my responsibility.

This is different with marketing. It depends not only on me but on other people’s behavior. And most of the time, I couldn’t see any relationship between effort and results.

Therefore, I have on my product roadmap a gamified loop with feedback, so that reluctant marketers have fun and keep being engaged to use the platform and stick to their habit.

[esafak]

You could seek permission from users to let you use their data to build a model to provide guidance.

[bohlenlabs]

Build a model? In the sense of machine learning or in another sense? Cool idea, what could that look like?

[esafak]

Yes, an ML model. If you built the machinery to connect marketing actions to business outcomes, as the OP complains about, you could recommend what actions to take. It's a straightforward machine learning task (supervised learning).

[bohlenlabs]

Cool thing. Guess I shouldn't reinvent the wheel here. Is there an open source example that I could learn from?

[esafak]

I don't think you will get far without knowing some ML but you could look at https://github.com/google/lightweight_mmm

[anbeliever]

There is Mar5000, a list of 5000 marketing related tools. Now this number if approaching to 8000, so I'd agree, lack of tools is not an issue.

[bohlenlabs]

By the way, I couldn't find that site. Mind sharing a link?

[bohlenlabs]

Should I add my tool to the site? ;-)