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by throw74774 1128 days ago
All jobs are artificially kept, as would UBI be. They are all artifacts of the law.

Money is a way to allocate resources, and technological progress depends on people having incentives to contribute.

Do you think LLMs are a natural phenomenon?
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satvikpendem 1128 days ago
> technological progress depends on people having incentives to contribute

Does it? That stands in stark contrast to open source in general, where people contribute without any monetary incentives.

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throw74774 1128 days ago
> where people contribute without any monetary incentives.

First of all you added in the word ‘monetary’, to straw-man the position.

Secondly, even if we run with your straw-man, I see little evidence this is true. Most successful projects are either corporately funded or begging for corporate funding. You see article after article here bemoaning the lack of funding for open source.

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satvikpendem 1128 days ago
Okay, if we take any incentives in general, that means anything we do is incentivized. Me eating food is incentivized by me not starving to death. It's not a particularly enlightening argument, hence why I preemptively added "monetary," as we were already talking about economic incentives and UBI, but if you want to explain what other incentives you are talking about, please do so, I would want to hear.

In today's world with no UBI, it's no wonder people bemoan the lack of funding, since it's an issue of actually living to produce the OSS one wants to make. If we have something akin to UBI, where we don't force people to stall technological progress in order to satisfy having a job, then this issue would disappear.

And to be clear, I'm also not against corporate funding for OSS, so long as it does remain OSS at the end of the day. Linux has corporate funding yet maintains its OSS status.

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throw74774 1128 days ago
Earlier you said “people contribute without any monetary incentives”, and now you are admitting that they do need monetary incentives because there is no UBI.

Which is the truth?

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satvikpendem 1127 days ago
People contribute already without any monetary incentives, but it sure would help to have UBI. I'm not sure what part you're confused about, as it's not an "either/or" proposition.
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