[scrollaway]

Google is a company providing me a service I pay for, with a contract I signed.

Do you think my data would be safer if I used UnknownCalMailCompany Inc, a company with zero track record in terms of privacy, safety, or long-term viability?

[andrewaylett]

Even those whose risk assessment leads to them not wanting to give Google their personal data should be able to acknowledge that Google's pretty good at not leaking user data onto the Internet.

To the extent that they make their money from user data, their advantage is in keeping the underlying data for themselves, not in giving it to other people.

(I use a fair amount of Google tech, including paying for hardware and services, but I won't use their search engine or browser)

[krger]

I guess since your only two options are, for some reason, "Google" and "UnknownCalMailCompany Inc," Google seems to be the choice for you.

Fortunately, many of the rest of us live in the real world where there are more than just those two options.

[scrollaway]

What’s your alternative? You’re not suggesting any.

And yes concretely, the two options if you want cloud are either the usual suspects (ms google apple), or unproven companies.

[krger]

I've used Fastmail for over 10 years now, but they may not be "proven" enough to be a True Scotsman.

[scrollaway]

Google has 50x more people working in security than fastmail has total employees.

[krger]

Good job moving those goalposts.

[scrollaway]

Thanks, you too.

I’m sorry but yeah, if you want a concrete solution that is on par with what google offers in terms of privacy and security, you can’t go with a random company and everything I said before stands. And in this scenario, fastmail IS a random company no matter how long you’ve used them.

[ricardobayes]

What's wrong with a flip calendar or a moleskin diary? Color me old-school but why does every single thing, especially your most private things need to be online?

[scrollaway]

Why do you care how I organise my life?

I value being able to ctrl+f my thousands of meetings across several years.