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by matheusmoreira 1143 days ago
They're not "stonewalling" anything. They essentially published their own opinion on the matter on their own website.

> After being accused of misleading advertisement by the justice ministry, it pulled the link

They weren't merely "accused", supreme court judges ordered Google to pull the link or face fines. Literal government censorship. They even ordered police to round up executives for "explanations". As if they owed them explanations over what's essentially a blog post.

Never ceases to amaze me the audacity of these jounalists to accuse others of spreading "fake news" while simultaneously and deliberately distorting the truth to this extent. If I see the words "fake news" anywhere, I assume it's malicious propaganda.

> That’s when big tech started saying there would be no more money to give their journalism programs, similar to what they told YouTube creators.

This must be what she's truly upset about. You're not entitled to Google's money.

They'd have to be stupid to invest in this place anyway. Who wants to invest millions in a near communist country where totalitarian judges can just fuck your shit up on a whim? Did you know the judges are deciding whether to make it illegal to fire people "without fair reason"? Just saw that in the news today. It boggles my mind that Google even employs people here at all.

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It's worth also mentioning what the regulation is. Bill 2630 demands:

> The bill aims to achieve this by creating a Council for Transparency and Accountability in the Internet, the objective of which is to inspect the digital platforms and guarantee transparency and accountability of their content. It also establishes the mandatory identification of users in platforms and messaging apps, also the prohibition of creation of fake accounts. In addition, this so-called Fake News Bill requires digital platforms to check the veracity of information that can cause damage to health, public security and economic order, and to delete or immediately suspend profiles that violate the rules of conduct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Congressional_Bill_N...

So we now have government checks for truth. Brazil now gets to mandate, supra-nationally, who can post & under what conditions, and what barriers users everywhere have to get online.

And while Brazil creates it's own system for checking these entities, they demand each platform also abandon safe harbor & independently become responsible for securing all content is safe, and if any content is risky, the creator of the content must be banned.

This bill can go to hell. This is such a key example of the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace, of puffed up foolery being done by idiotic nations with who have no power & worse no sense. There's no possible way this bill can actually happen. It's implementation is infeasible. And the greater idea here is a joke; there's 195 countries on earth: the idea that any one of them can just come boss around the entire internet is ridiculous.

The submission here is an opinion piece, from a journalist. I don't have any particular grasp on where they're coming from or who they are or what they believe, but they seem intent to cause harm. It's not superb coverage, but I might try suggesting the Guardian's own coverage of this topic, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/alphabet-googl...

Brazil's attempt here has been extremely illiberal from the outset. And it's ask has been unreasonable. They want a magic pony. Please, make the internet pure & clean & good, tech companies. Or else we will beat you brutally. We will do nothing to help. Anything potentially bad must be purged. Then their reaction to Google making available their position, telling Google they cannot even advocate for themselves: most low, most gross. You've covered that well. What an absolute disaster this is.

The situation here is too fucked up. This law is just an attempt to legitimize what these judge-kings are already doing. They're already censoring whatever they want. They have been censoring since last year's elections, even though censorship is already unconstitutional. What's a little law like this one to people who get away with violating the constitution? Even if this doesn't become law they can just decide to enforce it anyway as if it had passed.
I don't have a ton of local knowledge of what is happening or the situation. But the power grab here is immense, and I cannot imagine how any company, regardless of budget, could hope to live up to these mandates, even if the oversight board was fair & balanced & could judge corporate performance reasonably, which they won't be & can't. And the suprnational overreach seems absurd; so far beyond their borders.
The description here is from the bill from 2020. 40% of the bill already changed since then. Totally different.

Currently the bill is a clone of EU's Digital Services Act or Germany's NetzDG.

As usual as Brazil like to copy European laws. Brazil also have it's own GDPR (LGPD)