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by schoen 1133 days ago
We have proposed it!

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-schoen-intarea-unicast...

The big prize is 240/4.

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-schoen-intarea-unicast...

Our proposals have not been warmly received in the intarea WG so far.

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I think it is pretty reasonable to be reluctant to make such changes because it may well break stuff.
Well, for 240/4 in particular we (in a very expansive sense of "we"¹) started making the change back in 2008 in response to

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/pdf/draft-fuller-240space-0...

If we (for an expansive sense of "we") had kept it up more actively, we would already have had 15 years of progress on updating implementations and evolving people's expectations. That wouldn't have been a super-fast change, necessarily.

We (for a narrow sense of "we") think it's pretty likely that people will still be interested in having more IPv4 space in 15 years from now, so it's too bad that progress is (somewhat) stalled on this (with most Unix-like systems allowing it, and Windows not allowing it, and dedicated routers from before about 2013-2016 often not allowing it).

¹ the specific project I'm working on, started by John Gilmore, didn't exist yet at that time, but is trying to revive/continue this idea

Fair enough, but that more or less emphasizes my point: if it wasn't done by 2010 or so that means that a ton of IoT hardware has now shipped that may never see updates and that would possibly end up failing when presented with such a departure from what the expected behavior was at the time the hardware was shipped. You change old established standards at your peril, especially how IPV4 is routed and which ranges are reserved. There are quite a few things that retrospectively could have been handled better and a large number of huge ranges got handed out like candy back in the day. Some of those have been reclaimed and some still remain. It may be easier and with less chance of breaking stuff if those ranges were reclaimed more aggressively.
It would be amusing if a moderately breaking change to IPv4 is what finally causes all the old equipment to be finally dumpstered and IPv6 to reign supreme.
Indeed, that would be amusing. But I'm a big fan of getting as much life as possible out of hardware and seeing a whole pile of things unnecessarily dumped is a big ecological impact and that needs to be weighed against the advantages. And it will be hard to judge the impact without actually doing it.