[gue5t]

I'm apprehensive about the same things. Toolkit cooperation on Linux is bad enough now and I see no indication that any work is being done to even mitigate worsening as these changes give toolkits more control over user experience.

Google Chrome is just as bad if not worse than xmms because it's so loved; I'm a firm believer that user interface improvements should be shared between programs rather than implemented as one-off exceptions to the system setup. If it's a real improvement I'm bound to want it elsewhere, and if not, the loss of consistency isn't worth the small gain for that particular application.

[thristian]

Google Chrome is much better than xmms because you can turn the client-side window decoration and custom colour schemes off.

Still not as attractive as Firefox, to my mind, but that's opinions for you.

[exDM69]

> Google Chrome is much better than xmms because you can turn the client-side window decoration and custom colour schemes off.

How? I didn't know this was possible and tried it (after some googling). Basically I have two choices: bad and worse. The default has the tabs on top. If I enable "hide system title bar", it adds a frame with close, minimize, maximize buttons.

I use a window manager with no decorations, just 1px border around active window. I'd like to get rid of the Chromium custom ugly tab bar.

[krakensden]

I don't get it- if you have "hide system title bar" off, there's just tabs, and then your window manager takes over and draws a 1px border. Do you want chromium to enable some mode where it /never/ has tabs, and /always/ spawns new windows? Or do you just want a different theme for the tab bar?

[exDM69]

I'd like to get rid of all the remaining visible UI widgets in Chromium. That would be the address bar and the tab bar. Web page with 1 px border, no decorations or buttons, that's what I want.

I still want my tabs inside the browser (my wm doesn't have tabs for every window like ion3 or kde kwin). However, I don't want the tab bar to be visible unless I'm in the process of changing tabs with ctrl-tab. Same goes for the address bar, I'd like to see it only when I'm typing to it.

I used a browser called Luakit for a while. It's a WebKit-based browser that has a user interface that's built with Lua and has a Vim-like default setup. It worked quite well but I changed back to a conventional browser when I couldn't get a proxy set up with good ad blocking, etc (luakit has no proxy or ad blocking, it relies on you installing polipo+privoxy or another http proxy setup).

So these days I use Chromium but I would love to get that minimal UI look and feel from luakit.