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by hospitalJail 1131 days ago
I personally like having a car with these, but I'm not convinced it will be the death of GM like people predict.

>GM was not affected by PRISM, so they could make claims of having a privacy oriented vehicle. That messaging does really well on HN and I imagine other communities as well.

>The other thing is deeper integration. Yes it sounds like a security nightmare, but you will get additional features this way.

>You also write your own future. If the tech duopoly decides to do something like forbid alternative web browser engines, you don't need to bend the knee.

Not to mention, if every car has a generic infotainment screen, it makes the car less unique. Cars are all about the marketing and if you can make someone feel like they are cool for driving your car with the infotainment screen, you can sell that car.

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> GM was not affected by PRISM, so they could make claims of having a privacy oriented vehicle

I don't this this really follows. Can't you be unaffected by PRISM and then later also sell lots of customer data or whatever? Though I agree this won't be the death of GM. The worst case is they later go back and just add Carplay and Android Auto and waste a bunch of money trying to write their own stuff.

> >You also write your own future. If the tech duopoly decides to do something like forbid alternative web browser engines, you don't need to bend the knee.

I just want to say that this isn't the case for any person or corporation and it never will be. You always rely on someone or something else. GM for example relies on the United States to secure oil. You, a regular person rely on (whoever) to go and mine minerals to build your laptop. It's not just a fantasy but it's a uniquely weird, and hysterical anti-social pattern that I wish would just die. It's ok to rely on someone else and in fact it's normal, acceptable, and desirable. Relying on someone else means you have to forge relationships, and not be an ass.

> this isn't the case for any person or corporation and it never will be. You always rely on someone or something else.

Come on now... You know what I'm talking about.

We arent talking about making a car from raw materials, we are talking about in-house vs outsource.

I know what you mean but it's just an arbitrary line in the sand on web browsers. A web browser in this context is just another raw material input that is no different than tires, paint, skilled workers, or anything else.
Not affected by PRISM? Although technically true, it's mostly because PRISM predated the hardware, and because GM touts the big brother stuff as a feature of OnStar. Here are two recent articles, four years apart (though they have been doing this for much longer):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/01/15/polic...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/04/01/these...