[thriftwy]

Ukraine did not control Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk for almost a decade. The north cyprus / north ireland situation existed before the war, which does look idiotic to me presently.

[dragonwriter]

The war started with the 2014 invasion, not the 2022 escalation.

[thriftwy]

Okay, so? Another war was started in 1974 by Turkey. I rest the case.