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by vonnieda 1134 days ago
"You based your resume tips on a sexual grooming chart?"

"As a joke!"

"I'm gonna go work somewhere else..."

I know cultures are different in different places, but in corporate America this post is all red flags. Always Sunny is hilarious, but I sure wouldn't want to be sitting in HR explaining "the implication" to someone who has never seen the show.

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Get the hiring manager on a boat with you on international waters. Then they'll have to hire you... because of the implication.

yeeaah, this post is simultaneously hilarious (because the show is hilarious) and also demonstrates that the author is more interested in being edgy than promoting an inclusive environment for people who aren't tech bros.

This speaks to company culture, and to be fair, the more inclusive end of the spectrum isn't a given. There are plenty of companies like Kraken and Basecamp that have made it known they value just focusing on work rather than identity politics, and the author is waving a flag that signals he's part of "their tribe".

To some companies and people (such as myself) this flag happens to look red, but I don't think you can generalize to corporate america, because I think more companies are more interested in cultural homogeneity and having their worker bees looking similar and falling in line than they are in celebrating individuality and promoting diversity/inclusivity in their workforce. Even if most don't make this as explicit as Basecamp/Kraken.

This seems like a wild overreaction to me. The author just used the DENNIS system as a humorous starting point, but the advice doesn't have anything to do with manipulating women. I'm not sure how inclusion or diversity applies at all -- this isn't a corporate learning presentation, it's a blog post. He's allowed to reference a sitcom.

Frankly, your comment also reeks of the tribalism that's pervading modern political thought. Because he referenced a risqué joke from a sitcom on his blog, that means he's a "tech bro" who's anti-diversity? Come on.

Perhaps it's a bit harsh. I wouldn't judge anyone for joking about the DENNIS system in private. Blogging is a public platform though, and someone who is a hiring manager sharing their DENNIS system on a public platform with an explanation of why it's a useful thing seems like exactly the type of thing that would put some people on edge.

This is the culture war I'm talking about, there are different camps, and while I understand why some people want to be in the camp where joking about things that upset "sensitive" people is just fun and games, I think there are also a lot of people who see it as inappropriate in a professional context, and those kinds of jokes can feel exclusionary to them.

I'm really not trying to say anyone is right or wrong here, just that my own preference is to work in environments where most people who would lean towards passing up an opportunity for a joke that might make some group of people uncomfortable. I really hope you can similarly understand that.

My point was that this is _not_ a professional context. It's a personal blog. This would be inappropriate if he were giving this talk at his job, but... he's not. So I'm not sure how you can make any assumptions about how he behaves in a professional setting.
> Frankly

I see what you did there

I think it’s worth reading this post as a championship level ecosystem parasite getting his host to spread his resume widely within the ecosystem. If the message wasn’t itself a strong advertisement not to do business with this person, I’d suggest it doesn’t belong here, but as it is, this post is a valuable community service.
Celebrating individuality and getting offended at this blog post are mutually exclusive. There is no individuality without being offensive, because everything is offensive to somebody.
Apart from using the letters D E N N I S for lulz, this has nothing to do with the content of the show.
Yeah, it's as if this person read the first paragraph and assumed the system was the exact same one as in the screencap.

Anyone who read the article would see they're different in all but acronyms.

Why would you have to explain that in an interview? How would that conversation even happen? First they would have to ask you to explain the process of improving your resume, then you'd have to get into a conversation about how you read some tips from a blog post, then you'd need to tell them the blog post used the DENNIS acronym for humour, then explain the DENNIS system in its always sunny.
"Well don't you look at me like that, you certainly wouldn't be in any danger"
Anyone who follows an acronym for advice isn't cut out to be an effective manager.
You just don't understand BOBODDY
Many successful managers are people who blindly follow processes without understanding or caring why they're doing stuff. And many companies (and especially government) want wind-up dolls, not mavericks who think for themselves.
Sorry if that came across badly. I'm fairly new to blogging and still trying to strike the right tone with my content - trying to get a decent balance of informative and entertaining.

If it helps, I'm working on a 6-part series about unit testing with the new asynchronous features in Swift that's dry as fuck

There was nothing wrong with the article at all. Dont let people take humor out of life.
I didn't read the article (so hopefully you aren't advocating something nasty), but will give you a piece of advice I have read somewhere a long time ago which is attributed to Bill Cosby (I know!) and has helped me immensely.

`I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.`

So write with your own voice. Maybe you will rub some people the wrong way, but that is the path you should follow to resonate with your target audience.

I'm sure OP can just share his erotic memoir of his exploits to explain.
My memoir is the least erotic literature since The Very Hungry Caterpillar
Watch out for Sinbad
Why would this even come up in a discussion with HR?
100% with this. I love the show but this reeks of tech broism to an extent it almost feels satirical.
My favorite episode, but I think this is maybe one step worse than taking cues from "Succession"
Dennis is a master of dark patterns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTKZ9Gyqiyo&t=29s

Think of all the implications
I had to Google it... Yeah, not something you want to have to explain in an interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THvCDn8mGwo