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by snvzz 1139 days ago
That's fine, you and your ilk can get old on your own, suffer from the degradation of health and consequently quality of life caused by aging, and eventually die from old age, we won't stop you.

The rest of us will support the relevant research, and use the results to remain young or to be young again, possibly lasting for millennia.

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Sounds like hell on a dying planet where more people keep coming and no one leaves.

(Dying from the point of view of being about to sustain human life)

Unless of course we have magically conquered space travel too.

> Unless of course we have magically conquered space travel too.

If everyone sticks around, they can help solve the problem. If people don't die, maybe they'll be forced to care for the planet instead of spoiling it for the next group.

Lot of ifs and maybes there. And a lot of faith that the human race can actually pull together to do that.
It beats giving up on mankind from the get-go.
I have a feeling we'll both be worm food by 80 or 90. The difference being my ilk had a better appreciation for time, while yours thought they'd live forever.
Do you really think it makes that much difference, day to day?

Because if better appreciation just means you're on the right side of an argument that very rarely comes up, then your life quality is the same.

Contrary to the person you're responding to, I think it does make a large impact on the day to day. It's going to drive very different philosophies of life. One obvious embodiment of this would be on fertility. One who ignores, let alone denies, their own mortality is going to, on average, a different perspective on fertility than somebody who accepts their own imminent mortality. And these sort of things can often sort of snowball into impacting many other issues in life, in very significant ways.
Day to day, not at all. Just more generally. How many times have we heard 'I wish I'd visited my X more before they died.' Timelines and sense of mortality force you to think about such things.

It's definitely not about taking solace in winning some inane argument. I won't be celebrating my death, nor yours, as some kind of win.

You think the problem of aging cannot be resolved?

Aging has long been characterized. We understand in which ways degradation happens, and no new ways have been found for several decades. There aren't that many; They can be tackled, one by one.

We have an assortment of tools today that weren't available a mere 20 years ago, and it is our moral imperative to do this research.

There's more people suffering from aging and the conditions it does cause than any other health issue. All of us will eventually degrade, suffer and perish if nothing is done about it.

Improving the quality of life of our aging population by supplementing the shortcomings of metabolism (and thus un-doing aging) is the target.

Longevity would be a byproduct of this.