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by splitbrain 1145 days ago
Awesome project. But $300 is still quite steep for a thing I might maybe use once a year. I really wish these thermal sensors came down in price...
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I don't know if it's been awhile since you looked, but prices have dropped if you don't look at the name brand:

Bought one of these for work (HIKmicro, 160x120/19200pixel) for ~$300. It works, it's quite good compared to any thermal camera I played with 5+ years ago (even the fancy ones).

https://www.amazon.com/HIKMICRO-Resolution-Portable-4%C2%B0F...

It's important to note that camera sensor tech has been advancing quite rapidly these past two decades.

You can rent a FLIR camera for $80/day from Home Depot if you really need one for a quick project.
The sensor itself is 160. There is no getting around that.
you could make your own thermal sensor, which is what i thought the article was going to be about from the title

this is a bit like 'i made a working, drivable car from scratch using only basic hand tools, raw materials, and a 2005 honda civic' or 'i built my own operating system around the linux kernel'

That would be really neat, but I haven't seen anyone even make a CMOS imager on SKY130.

https://github.com/google/skywater-pdk

One could make an array of thermopiles, like the hacker that made their own imager out of discrete diodes (digiOBSCURA) . But each pixel would cost $7.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/excelitas-technol...

One might be able to make an array of thermistors (possibly with active cooling using a peltier) like the diycamera (digiOBSCURA) below. Might be an application of combining many RC oscillators in a tree and recovering the signal with an FFT. I have a gut feeling this is possible, but haven't show it. Isn't this the same as or similar to your keyboard multiplexer design?

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/panasonic-electro...

https://github.com/IdleHandsProject/diycamera (digiOBSCURA)

One could experiment with microbolometers on tinytapeout. https://elicit.org/search?q=cmos+microbolometer

https://tinytapeout.com/

i think the google shuttle thing and tinytapeout are only for digital chips, not even analog

i was thinking of directly measuring rc fall times for the keyboard multiplexer rather than running free oscillators

relaxation oscillators will give you a lot of harmonics, might be good or bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSZm3q4rUBg

Above is a seminar on analog layout designed to target Tiny Tapeout that went over Magic (by Jonathan Edwards) and Klayout (Thomas Perry). Sky130 and tinytapeout can do analog, but most of the tools and the examples are digital based.

https://i.imgur.com/NespRr4.png

https://www.klayout.de/forum/discussion/1879/video-demo-of-a...

oh fantastic, do you mean subtext jonathan edwards? i had no idea he was doing hardware

i thought the google shuttle program connected your design to the outside world through some kind of digital bullshit