[ftxbro]

> "Everyone saying the government will pass UBI. Lol. They can't even handle providing all people with basic Healthcare or giving women a few guaranteed weeks off work (at a bare minimum) after exploding a baby out of their body. They didn't even pass a law to ensure that shelves were restocked with baby formula when there was a shortage. They just let babies die. They don't care. But you think they will pass a UBI lol?"

i feel like they would almost have a point here if they could calm down a little

[enempi]

I mean, as someone who had a newborn during that time it was pretty stressful and upsetting trying to feed them. But I can understand if you have been completely insulated from these issues in your life why you might take more issue with the authors tone.

[commandlinefan]

Well, how could the government have enforced a law requiring baby formula to be available?

[Smaug123]

"Make this supply-limited good available" is a problem that markets love to solve; in fact we do quite a lot of work to place constraints on many markets so that their solutions take forms with specific properties. In principle, we can relax constraints. USA baby formula at the time had very strong constraints ("nutritional labelling must take this precise form", https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_116.html) which could be relaxed.

[revertmean]

Very easily. There's no baby formula shortage in the UK or EU, so why not pass emergency legislation that allows them to provide the US market and pay the EU/UK producers up front to ramp up their production until the issue is resolved.

[htfu]

Finding ways to have someone with functioning parts feed your baby sounds stressful and upsetting indeed, but pretending it would kill them is not "tone".

[ftxbro]

> Finding ways to have someone with functioning parts feed your baby sounds stressful and upsetting

nice to meet a fellow empath

[_heimdall]

Regulations protecting paid leave after the birth of a child feels like a no breaker to me and honestly falls into the bucket of worker protections.

Arguing for a UBI and universal Healthcare as though government welfare programs are an obvious must for any government is ridiculous. By all means, arguing for why they're necessary federal expeditures is on thing, assuming that it's a given part of any government is completely ignoring the tradeoffs that must be accepted for such programs.

[UncleEntity]

I wonder about this point.

Let’s say there’s a UBI, there’s still a ton of jobs that won’t be taken over by the robots for at least the rest of my life that will still need to be done. If we learned anything from the Covid unemployment benefits it is given a chance people will sit at home instead of working for essentially the same amount of money.

What they don’t ever explain is how they plan on incentivizing people to do all the crap jobs. Everyone always talks about the writers and programmers needing to get compensation for their lost jobs but for every one of those there’s probably a dozen people who would get a raise from a UBI and just stop working.

Unless there’s an underclass that is prevented from collecting the same UBI as the displaced white collar workers I can guarantee you there will be nobody taking that job to suck out your septic system.

And I’m intentionally ignoring any economic impacts of a UBI because I’m more interested in how people propose to solve this without creating a virtual caste system.

[htfu]

Why do you assume it would be anything more than what's in the name - basic? Enough to get by, nothing more.

Or is it that you think shitmen make minimum wage or something? Anyways, the answer is simply that _UBI IS NOT MEANS TESTED_ so working won't take any of it away, just give you more money. Even if UBI was on par with your salary we'd be talking doubling your income. If that's somehow not enough the market will have to value those jobs higher until there is equilibrium.

[UncleEntity]

> Why do you assume it would be anything more than what's in the name - basic?

Because people claim it’s the only solution to AI taking the skilled jobs. Tax the owners of the AIs and distribute this to the people who no longer have jobs because of the automation.

TFA specifically implied this or why else would they have gone on a rant about how the government doesn’t do enough to provide for the people?