[jimmaswell]

As an aside (not that you endorsed it) is anyone else sick of hearing "tech bro"? It feels like a slur pretty much. I can't take anyone seriously who uses it. As someone who makes art occasionally and commissions artists regularly, when an artist whines about "ai tech bros" it makes me want to use ai even more out of spite.

[teucris]

It’s definitely used as a generic slur, but there is a need to call out the problematic parts of tech culture that have led to some of our recent problems with social media, privacy, bias, etc. I don’t know of any terminology that hasn’t been weaponized, so I resort to using “bro culture”. The reality is that terminology is a treadmill - terms get “used up” as they’re laden with connotations and baggage, forcing us to find new terms, ad infinitum.

[MichaelZuo]

> The reality is that terminology is a treadmill - terms get “used up” as they’re laden with connotations and baggage, forcing us to find new terms, ad infinitum.

Perhaps for those lacking courage.

There are plenty of real world examples that demonstrate people, including sizeable organized groups, are capable of doing otherwise, at least for a few hundred years.

e.g. Vatican hardliners sticking to their canon.

[dragonwriter]

I dunno, the Vatican seems a perfect example of people needing to come up with new terms as old ones get “used up”, even when the ideas don’t change.

I mean, that’s pretty much the reason why we have the “Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith” rather than the “Congregation of the Holy Inquisition” and “Dicastery for Evangelization” rather than “Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith” (or, and this perhaps indicates how the name had worn out better, in Latin short form “Propaganda Fidei”.)

[jimmaswell]

Is it really accurate to imply there are no women willingly complicit in or benefitting from evil corporation deeds?

[rurp]

It's a broad generalization that isn't meant to be precisely accurate in all cases. I'm not claiming it's a great term, but it does succinctly describe a notable attitude and culture. If there's a better term to use that conveys the same message I'm sure many folks would be happy to adopt it.

[agalunar]

For many younger speakers, "you guys" is legitimately a second person plural pronoun (like "y'all") and implies nothing about the gender^1 of the referents, even if they consider singular "guy" to be a synonym for man.

Some older speakers use "guy" as a term of address, as in "Hey, guy", similar to how one might say "hey, bud" or even "hey you".

I don't think it will ever happen, but it's funny to imagine something similar happening and "bro(s)" coming to be a nongendered term.

Anyway, it's never crossed my mind before that "tech bros" singles out men; for me it evokes a stereotype of, yes, men, but it's really an attitude, value system, world view, or collection of behaviors that are being alluded to. (Of course, it's also only implication in the sense of "hinting at", because it's not contradictory to say "tech bros are the worst, and tech women are too").

[1] The... non-grammatical gender. English no longer has grammatical gender in any case, so it's unambiguous, but it feels weird to use "gender" in a linguistic context and not mean grammatical gender.

[mrshadowgoose]

I feel the same way. At least in my social circles, "tech bro" tends to be used by the loudest and least-informed individuals when they try to marginalize something they don't understand, but vaguely don't like (or have read that they're not supposed to like).

[cwkoss]

In my social circle, the only people bothered by the term are tech bros.

[mikrl]

«Tech bro» is so passé, I have my own (more offensive) names for the archetype to which the term applies.

[brigadier132]

"Tech bro" is just an insult created purely from sour grapes. The people that use the term "tech bro" are the same people that describe things as "gross". These are the people that will be automated out of jobs first.

[rurp]

> These are the people that will be automated out of jobs first.

This attitude is exactly why "tech bro" is a perjorative. There is a prominent group of people that shares your disdain for folks who are upset that their lives are being ruined by technological changes, all so that they can have some new shiny toys and become even wealthier.

On top of being, yes, gross, being so vocal about that attitude is stupid. It would be much better to at least pretend to have some empathy or at least keep your glee to yourself.

[Nasrudith]

So we are expected to have empathy and respect for people who treat our entire vocation as a grave sin? Every last word they vomit about the propaganda threat of ML has been projection from propagandists. They can fuck right off, they have earned their lack of empathy.

[brigadier132]

Why should I pretend to have empathy for assholes that deride other people as "tech bros"? Fuck them.

[jimmaswell]

I don't fault anyone for being upset they have to find a new job, but I have justified disdain for what amount to horse farriers who want to ban the automobile.