[irrational]

I’ve worked at the same company for a long time. For about 15 years, my team was embedded in a business team and we managed things however we wanted. We could move very quickly. Then, about 5 years ago, we were moved into the tech organization. We were forced to adopt agile, sprints, scrum masters, jira, stand ups, etc. It probably takes 10 times longer to get the same amount of work done, with no improvement in quality. The amount of meetings is truly astonishing. I’m convinced the tech org mainly exists to hold meetings and any development work that occurs is purely accidental.

[chiefalchemist]

But is your loss from adopting those teach standards, or from being un-embeded in the business team?

Tech orgs and those standards exist because:

- tech generally doesn't understand business - the business struggles to express it's needs to tech

Embedding worked for you, but how big was your team? Could that scale?

I'm not questioning your success or your frustrations, but how unique was the situation for your success?

[0xblinq]

Same experience as me. Scrum is a disease in this industry.

[tomnipotent]

What you may not see is quality-of-life improvements for executive management, planning, and scheduling. Communication and alignment can be both more important and more profitable than just velocity alone.