[sib]

Phoenix is like LA without the positives

[local_crmdgeon]

Honestly there's not much to recommend about any Southwestern city (outside of Texas), LA included.

[agensaequivocum]

This is definitely not true.

[sib]

Like LA: Large, sprawling, full of concrete, car-dependent Without the good parts: No media industry, very little tech industry, much less diverse, far fewer good restaurants, no ocean