[capableweb]

Yeah, I agree that it's highly subjective. And I don't mean that people shouldn't chose something just based on one variable, it obviously depends. No language is perfect for every use case. Personally I use Rust for a lot of things, even though I'm more productive in other languages, but sometimes it's just a really good fit for the problem.

Pseudo-code, but this is how I see the difference in expressiveness and syntax:

   3.times {
      println('Foobar')
   }

   for i in 0..3 {
      println!("Foobar")
   }

Both of them makes sense though, so not a huge difference, but it's the same way in lots of ways in Rust in general.

> because it's a huge hindrance to trying a large number of languages out there with lots of nice things

I know exactly what you're talking about, as most of the time I work in Clojure, and trying to show Clojure to other programmers who are used to C-like languages and never heard of any lisp-like language is a constant struggle, as their first reaction is always "eww, parenthesizes everywhere!" even though their favorite language usually has the same amount or even more.