[light_hue_1]

That's Google.

I don't bother to read most Google papers unless someone tells me that they're doing something astounding. Just because I know I don't have access to their models, their code or their data. So what's the point?

As a community we need to stop accepting and stop citing papers like these.

There is no science without replicability, and it is literally impossible to replicate this work. It's not worth the paper it's printed on.

It's fine if Google wants to play with its toys at home. But we should stop pretending this is research of any value.

[gs17]

I don't even bother with the "astounding" things unless there's code. MusicLM was cool, but without code/weights it might as well be a hoax.

[gremlinsinc]

yeah they were supposed to have the next big image thing, OMG it can do text, and stable diffusion beat them to releasing something that actually can render text on images, so yeah - there's a lot of young companies iterating way faster than an old guard can muster up the troops and honestly I don't think anyone at Google feels inspired much these days, hard to build some passionate endeavors when your soul is being sucked right out of you.

[fpgaminer]

Yeah, these days I'm "over" Google's AI research. All their papers sound cool, and they've got nice pictures/audio/etc. But nothing meaningful has ever materialized from Google.

OpenAI is killing it with ChatGPT, a publicly accessible product with research papers that have been reproduced. Facebook released huge LLMs for free. Stability released successful image models for free. etc.

Meanwhile Google has ... Tensorflow? Dying. TPUs? Only used by Google themselves or when they're free. Bard? A joke compared to ChatGPT. Imagen? Never released.

Remember when Google said they were going to have an AI call your hair salon and make appointments for you? Yeah...

But hey, at least they've got that golden mountain of PII they harvested from everyone that's been oh so valuable in building new, market defining products... It's not like small companies are running circles around them using publicly available hardware and publicly available data...

And they've still got search, a that product just keeps getting better and more useful by the day...

[esafak]

> Remember when Google said they were going to have an AI call your hair salon and make appointments for you?

I think that ran into social problems, not technical ones.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/9/18538194/google-duplex-ai-...

[mirker]

There is a ton of value. OpenAI having proprietary LLMs single handedly pivoted the entire field to LLMs. A random GitHub repository doesn’t come close to impact.