Wesley’s retort was of, “…but I find that Thibault cancels out Capa Ferro. Don’t you?” This speaks of Gérard (Girard) Thibault d’Anvers (1574-1627), a Dutch fencing master and author of the rapier manual, Academie de l’Espée (1630). Thibault brilliantly utilized both logic and geometry to aid in his swordfighting defense. Therefore, Wesley felt that his Thibaultian studies in using such tactics as (for example) “higher ground” and angulation on attack, gave him added measure when defending against linear thrusts such as “The Lunge.”