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by mypgovroom 1142 days ago
Can Congress pass a law outlawing giving bills cute names that are completely irrelevant to the intent of the law? Once they get that accomplished they can work on something else
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Can we make congressmen actually read the bills they vote on?
Yes, a bill should have to be read out loud in its entirety by its sponsor in public before any voting can occur.
On the floor, with a majority present.
Nothing you do can keep the majority awake.

Budget bills in particular can get really tedious. And any bill that, say, strikes or adds a word to already extant law, would require reading the entirety of the law so changed.

I don’t care if they stay awake, I want to end omnibus Bible sized bills full of pork and erosions of our rights being put in bills that would otherwise be in the interests of the people.

Forcing them the discomfort of having to read it out loud all by themselves should help greatly with that.

I’m looking at you former speaker of the house that said we have to pass the bill to know what’s in it.

This will incentive Congress to delegate more than they do now. Instead of line items for each major expense in a budget bill, they'll just assign X billions of dollars to Y agency to parcel out as the agency director wishes.
While we're at it, every Git pull request should have to be read out in full. No `git diff` - that's just as bad as what Congress does. Read every source file, even the ones that didn't changed, just to be sure. /s
Self-filibuster?
The self-filibuster. I fully support it.
Now /that’s/ some bureaucracy
It would result in them being shorter
It would result in a pointless formal exercise simply designed to make things more difficult without any tangible benefit. Bureaucracy.
Is shorter better?
Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.

-- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Shorter makes it harder to stuff it full of pork.
> Can Congress pass a law outlawing giving bills cute names that are completely irrelevant to the intent of the law? Once they get that accomplished they can work on something else

It's sometimes helpful to look at the name of the bill & assume that the bill will achieve the exact opposite.

> Can we make congressmen actually read the bills they vote on?

Most Congress members vote based on spheres of influence, not spheres of interest. The lobbyists that fund the politician's campaign tells the politician how to vote & the consequences of voting against the lobbyist's wishes.

Sort of a Betteridge's law of headlines situation.
I think the new rule is you need to pass it first, and then find out what is in it.
Don't allow them to vote on anything they cant pass a basic comprehension test on.
We should have the same requirement for people voting in elections.
We tried that a century ago, but it was just racism in disguise. Why would we assume any questionnaire people must take today won't be abused for other agendas?
> Why would we assume any questionnaire people must take today won't be abused for other agendas?

Same with voter ID. It’s touted as “racist” although other poorer countries easily handle the issue of voter ID.

It’s almost as if one political party amasses power by continually brow beating their constituents into a victim mentality.

Or at least require a full verbal reading of the bill before voting? Stop the 4000-page moster bills with a self-filibuster.
Bills should only have numbers, never names.

Cattle, not pets.

It's like those people who have to give every security vulnerability some stupid cute name.