[ecshafer]

You are asking the op to prove a negative. You are making the claim that this is a "Trained Observer" which has been debunked, the burden of evidence has fallen to you to show that it has been debunked. Op can't exactly cite something saying that it has not been debunked. They cited a video with evidence and people who have some large authority on things in the air.

[ipunchghosts]

Fair point and my comment was more of a drive by than something to put a stake in the sand. If there was some easily cited article that OP could point me to, i would take a look. I'm by no means making a strong claim.

[poulpy123]

here an exemple of what you say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQQUaXxHEYo