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by jmbwell 1144 days ago
As an administrator, I hear you, but we have to adapt. Passwords are awful. On the whole, the effort and energy spent training people on passwords, battling phishing, dealing with password managers, cleaning up from breaches, and more… passwords can't die soon enough.

FWIW, asymmetric PKI is technically mature and relatively easy to implement in most applications (without "vendor lock-in", I might add to comments upthread), and there are ways to address most of your concerns about key loss and recovery beyond what you describe, as by the ring of trust scheme Apple uses, for example.

The only way through this is forward. I'm confident it really will get better once passwords become a smelly indicator of bad security practice.

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I'm looking forward to such glory days. Right now, however, none of the solutions available are ones that I could live with if I had to use them for everything. For one or two very sensitive things, sure, but for everything? It's less of a pain to use long, random passwords.
This is just like using a long random password, except that it's cryptographically verifiable without ever leaving your device.

If passwords are like playing poker with your cards facing out, Passkeys are like playing with your cards facing in. Your secrets remain under your full control at all times. Nothing sensitive is sent over the wire.

Yes, for everything. Those who've implemented it so far have done a great job at making it /easier/ than handling passwords.

If you've ever used ssh with keys instead of passwords, it's the same thing, and it's so much easier while being more secure. A rare convergence.