[samelawrence]

Can you name some of the innovation happening in ICE vehicles? Just some terms I can search for would be appreciated. Thanks!

[recov]

Porsche synthetic fuels - https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023/sustainability/porsche-...

[detaro]

I wish that was "under the radar" instead of "subject of a giant embarrassing marketing push"

[dmbche]

South Ameria has been using bio ethanol as a fuel for a while now, it's cheaper and uses crops, there are projects to bring that to North Amerixa and the rest of the world!

[ornornor]

Doesn’t bio ethanol take more fossil fuel energy to create than it replaces?

[dmbche]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

I'm not very well versed in the subject but this should point you in the right direction!

[ornornor]

> for average conditions one unit of fossil-fuel energy is required to create 8.3 energy units from the resulting ethanol

It seems they’re in a unique position because sugar cane grows there, is used in industry, and the leftovers that aren’t usable for anything else can be turned into fuel.

I had no idea Brazil has a unique bio ethanol industry, thanks for sharing.