[execveat]

Nobody in their right mind is using GCE for training. Take a look at real prices: https://vast.ai/

[simonw]

I got the impression that kind of thing (buying time on GPUs hosted in people's homes) isn't useful for training large models, because model training requires extremely high bandwidth connections between the GPUs such that you effectively need them in the same rack.

[p1esk]

I suspect most A100s on vast.ai are actually in a datacenter, and might even be on other public clouds, such as AWS. I don't see why either vast.ai or AWS care if this was the case.

[marshray]

Is there at good resource that describes the impact of bandwidth and latency between GPUs?

I assume that it's completely impractical to train on distributed systems?

[qeternity]

Anyone training this size of model is almost certainly using AWS/GCE.

The GPU marketplaces are nice for people who need smaller/single GPU setups, don't have huge reliability or SLA concerns, and where data privacy risks aren't an issue.

[mrtranscendence]

Well, or Azure.

[qeternity]

Ha yes of course. But actually has anyone been able to get instances on Azure? Thought OpenAI had them all reserved.

[superpope99]

Aren't they explicitly using TPUs in their training? Vast AI are only offering GPUs.

[bravura]

These nodes typically have slow downstream, and thus are hard to use when training requires pulling a huge dataset.

[lostmsu]

Only 19 GPUs with 30+G of VRAM in the entire North America.

I might be misreading it. It might be just 12 GPUs.

[jeron]

also, https://brev.dev/