[themoop]

I think most things you describe are just getting used to product difference / configuration options.

Clicking an email definitely marks it as read. The calendar schedule not being revealed is a just a privacy option, each person must opt-in to share the exact meeting details.

Having used both gsuite and office I find that they both get job done fairly well

[nickjj]

> The calendar schedule not being revealed is a just a privacy option, each person must opt-in to share the exact meeting details.

We've done this as far as I know. We also added each other to our directory. I can see the details of other team mate's calendars in the full view but this does not show up in the mini-view when you add a guest to an event.

With Google, when you create a new event and put in a user's email as a guest it immediately showed you a full list of their exact events with times and whether or not they accepted an optional meeting (an outlined or filled circle). It was great to see at a glance while you're in the process of creating the event.

With MS' calendar all you see is a red block of color around the times they are not available.

> Clicking an email definitely marks it as read.

It doesn't for me when using Chrome. When I click into an email the title remains bold and the inbox count doesn't decrease. Keep in mind this is the web app. I didn't install the dedicated app, but I also used the web version of all of Google's tools too.

[CharlesW]

> With MS' calendar all you see is a red block of color around the times they are not available.

Only by default, which I believe your org can change. You have complete control over this for your calendar, as does everyone else.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/share-your-calend...

> When I click into an email the title remains bold and the inbox count doesn't decrease.

Also configurable.

[dabluecaboose]

>> When I click into an email the title remains bold and the inbox count doesn't decrease.

>Also configurable.

Bless you! I had been angsting over this at work for years. I can't believe I didn't think to check the settings.

[nickjj]

The sharing aspect has already been done. It still doesn't show the details in the mini-view where you insert the person's name as a guest which is the most important time to see such information.

You just see a big chunk of red with no details. You don't even see things like "busy". It's just a solid red color.

[CharlesW]

> The sharing aspect has already been done.

The key is that there are 5 permission levels: (1) None, (2) Can view when I'm busy, (3) Can view titles and locations, (4) Can view all details, and (5) Can edit.

Is that too much control? Maybe, but it's helpful when you want to share more details with teammates than you do with others, grant admins edit permissions, etc.

[nickjj]

All of us have it set to (4) to view all details.

But nope, it doesn't show any details in the mini view when inviting someone to an event.

[hra5th]

The email gets marked as read once you click out of the email to view a different one (which I agree is unintuitive, but it is not true you have to explicitly click "mark as read").

[topkai22]

The location for setting mail read on selected is settings-> mail-> message handling-> Mark as read.

Outlook also defaults to not marking messages as unread when the unread filter is on. I presume because profiles were setting the filter and then complaining their messages were disappearing? You can change rose on the same settings page