[perydell]

See neverssl.com.

It has been around for a long time and is useful for making sure you see Wifi terms pages.

[graiz]

NeverSSL is the way to go - they have a number of cache-busting tricks that I haven't seen on other sites.

[password4321]

Not anymore? (This discussion is pretty much a dupe.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35789730

[lolinder]

See the top reply to that comment:

> They're trying to solve the "how do log into this captive portal" problem, and they needed to make this change to handle that typing "neverssl.com" now often evaluates to "https://neverssl.com".

So, yes, it's still useful for WiFi logins. The change in question was specifically for that purpose. https://neverssl.com now redirects to http://neverssl.com so you can log in to WiFi even if your browser thinks it knows better.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35792149

[chrismorgan]

Except it actually makes the handling of that case worse, quite apart from making a lie of the name and content of the site.

[yftsui]

captive.apple.com does the same trick with a smaller payload.

[benatkin]

Where can I go that has a bigger payload? When I've successfully opened a site on an unfamiliar WiFi network I'd like to know up front if I'm gonna have trouble loading stuff.

[judge2020]

captive.apple.com is just for captive portals - technically networks can (and do) spoof it, but it's just a connectivity check. Past that you can do any test you want over https.

[benatkin]

I'd rather have both in one :)

neverssl strikes a pretty good balance