[walderf]

well no because according to what these 20+ year veteran medical professionals with published credentials stated in the very extensive neurological-focused research manuscript they, being highly accredited MD professors with literal PhD's in neurology, neurophysiology, heck one is even a neurosurgeon who studied neuroanesthesiology, wrote about, because, well, it's kind of their, how to say, area of focus and specialty, or, well, thing,

> All four patients were comatose at baseline (S1) with no evidence of voluntary behavior or any overt consciousness during the last 24 h of their lives; their Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS) scores were of 3 (Pt1, Pt2, and Pt4) and 4 (Pt3). Due to poor neurological prognosis and upon approval of the patients’ family members, life support was ultimately withdrawn from all four comatose patients.

if the words stemming from a group of literal badass neurologist's badass study - https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2216268120 - isn't enough to do it alone, this article - https://hyperallergic.com/720694/science-confirms-that-life-... - should work to further refute your lackadaisical claim, maybe even pique a little interest along the way.

all i am saying is, we're part of something. something much much bigger. if not, oh well! :)

[yieldcrv]

and the other 2 were in a different/deeper vegetative state that garnered zero response

and I’m only talking about the former 2 who were more like the people that escaped “comatose at baseline with no evidence of … overt consciousness” who consistently go on to say “I knew what was going on around me”, despite failing all brainwave tests

how you chose to skip that to rationalize your dissertation and conclusion is still beyond me, and not a single thing here supports your “something much much bigger” desire. a physical response happens that we just started to measure. how did you get anything else out of that?

you read something that wasn't even there, I read “these highly credentialed 20 year veterans couldnt get a sample size greater than 4 and they equally proved and disproved whatever anyone wanted to hear, how embarrassing”, I dont need that lengthy pedigree to still want more research into this matter funded and done. I want that.

[walderf]

> Well yeah because they were conscious and knew you were going to kill them

this statement comes across as more of a declaration of reason.

i am defending the medical research that's been published. i want the same thing that you do, for sure, but the way that your words came across didn't mould well with the perspective that i have. something i've had. something i gained due to following along with many similar in-depth, cited medical and scientific research publications as the post and what i've linked, but, also due to a unique life experience that has actually stemmed from the fact "it", being something seemingly directly relating to anything and everything that's not "officially" there, happening, but so few is known about, that although it is happening, no matter the fact that it's really there and really happening, there isn't yet, currently, a solid way for anyone, at least on the outside, to know that it is. now. before. and will still most definitely be a thing that happened. a thing that happens. a thing that in future time, will be happening still.

i didn't fully know what a GCS was before today. however, 3 is the lowest. 3 of them had 3. one had 4. out of 15. 8 or less is considered severe. that paints a big picture as to the state of these humans.

i chose to share my link with you because it's relevant.

i came across brash because you worded your statement so "matter of factually" that i felt obligated to play around with some of your verbiage in retort.

the technology involved with what am not going to talk about will. mark my words. in soon time. will have an effect on the world that nobody will be able to, even though they're really going to want to and really wish they could, but can't, miss. will it be tomorrow? doubtful. 3 years? hope so. 10? hope not. maybe. doesn't matter. 5-1-2023. i said it. remember.

either way, along the way, some good can come out of it and more research can be published. public. accessible. known about.

anyways. sorry for the rant. sorry for the shade. the cryptic mystic. the crazy. it's a spot. a tough spot! :)

at any rate, here's to hoping we both stay coma free.

cheers.