[dang]

That question has a long history on HN and we eventually arrived at a clear answer: the shallowest sort of political stories are offtopic here, but there are also interesting stories with political overlap, and it's neither possible nor desirable to exclude all of those. A great deal of past explanation about this can be found at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so....

When a story does have political overlap, it's incumbent on commenters to stay within the site guidelines regardless of how strongly they feel, or how wrong they feel other people are. This is in the site guidelines: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." That's not easy, but it's possible. For this forum to succeed at its mandate, we all have to work hard at it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[newswasboring]

I don't think we are getting a more substantive comment thread by banning people from acknowledging blatant truths about the political system. This isn't just me saying it, the BJP government itself prides itself as a Hindutva and Hindu Rastra (Hindu State) building party. I'm sorry, feels to me like you are making a "both sides" argument where reality on the ground is that there is no other sides.

[dang]

It's not a 'both sides' argument to say that everyone needs to follow HN's rules.

What people call "acknowledging blatant truths" can mean a lot of different things depending on their passions about a topic. It's hard to perceive one's own expressions objectively. Even the users who post the worst flamebait typically feel like they're simply stating the truth in a straightforward way.

There are ways of acknowledging truths that are more likely to lead to flamewar, and other ways that are less likely to lead to flamewar. We need commenters here to do the latter, not the former. That's an ongoing process that takes a conscious effort, at least when one's emotions are engaged, and people need to do this regardless of how right they are or feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[newswasboring]

I'm sorry, flagging people for calling the current government crony capitalist and Hindu majoritarian is absolutely not fair. It is absolutely a both sides argument because you think there is any other way to put it. Especially when the current government welcomes rapists with flower garlands because they are upper caste and actively favors certain business groups openly. It's ok, I don't expect you to understand our politics.