[yongjik]

Another example is when Samsung aired an ad for their phones in the UK last year, featuring a woman jogging on 2am in the city. Apparently, that ruffled some feathers, with people questioning how Samsung could be so tone-deaf about women's safety.

Except that a woman jogging in Seoul's street on 2am would be a totally believable sight: I wouldn't personally recommend it, but it wouldn't look too out of place.

[rahmeero]

My business partner is an attractive young woman living in Seoul. I am based in California. She and I have regular phone meetings at 2 am her time. She uses our meeting time to jog around the city while talking. She's been doing this routine for 2 years and never had a problem.

When I visited Seoul, we went all over the city and I realized after 4 days that I had not seen a single policemen nor heard a single police siren. Seoul is 25 million people. I live in a "safe" California town of 60,000 people and see policemen all the time, and hear sirens regularly. I would caution any friend from jogging at 2am here.

In coffee shops in Seoul, people leave their wallets and laptops unattended while they go to the bathroom. By contrast, in my hometown in California, thieves have walked in, punched customers, grabbed laptops out of the customer's hands and run.

A very different world -- not just Seoul, but other cities in Asia.

[Glawen]

> Apparently, that ruffled some feathers, with people questioning how Samsung could be so tone-deaf about women's safety.

In my time, at 2am UK streets were full of drunk men and women. Is it safer to be drunk than practicing sport? Did it change so much in 10 years or is it a safety fantasm?