[madaxe_again]

I think it’s also that kids are far smarter than generally given credit for, and are perfectly capable of going behind their parents’ backs.

What is needed, and has been for some time, is an identity service.

This does exist in some parts of the world - here in Portugal, for instance, I access government services online with a smartcard, password and 2FA - and I don’t see why they couldn’t extend this as a general SSO service using oauth or whatever to provide accredited identities to providers who require it due to regulation. The provider doesn’t need to receive anything from the auth apart from a user id, or a “deny access”.

[soulofmischief]

Because humans have the right to reasonable privacy, which is a prerequisite to protecting other human rights, such as activism and free speech.

[Kwpolska]

I don't want Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/etc knowing my real identity, and I don't want my government knowing my Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/etc profile ID.

[john_the_writer]

I don't understand that "behind parents back" bit.

My teen kids aren't on social. I know this because their dumb phones don't support it, and their computers are not permitted in their rooms (Kitchen table only).

I suppose they could get on, through a friends smart-phone, but that would be limited to the time they spend on the bus to/from school.

[meindnoch]

How do you know they don't have a second phone? E.g. a friend gave them their old phone.

As a kid I was doing graffiti, and later drinking and smoking weed without my parents knowledge.

[john_the_writer]

1. none of their friends have the money to have an old phone.

2. When would they have the time. They're home, and at school. Band, Judo, Cadets, Tutoring. Where's the time to hide a phone.

3. I'll stipulate that some kids could do it. Vast majority would get caught. And my kids fear the pink bunny suit I have in my closet. I'd walk them to school every day for a month. Lets seem them stay on facebook through that. :)