[gensym]

Anything that feels "techy" but doesn't require practice, study, or math is always going to be a magnet for grifters who were doing beer bongs while others were learning to code.

(Edit: I'm not trying to imply anything about the linked author of this piece. They actually do have code examples!)

[zemo]

the idea that learning to code is virtuous and having fun is bad needs to go away. Lots of people learned to code AND did beer bongs.

[gensym]

Then clearly I'm not talking about them.

FWIW, I don't think learning to code is inherently virtuous. I do think putting in the time to be good at something is more virtuous than trying to find the easiest way to latch onto whatever the hot new industry is, which is my impression of most prompt engineering at this point.

[dmingod666]

It's not about fun. Nuance is the key differentiator. Conscientiousness is (correctly, imo) valued because correctness matters (a lot).

[moffkalast]

You guys aren't having fun coding?

[kuhewa]

I think the point is some people didn't do the former

[airstrike]

also lots of people didn't learn to code and did not do beer bongs... and despite knowing those two attributes, we know nothing about them

[drewcoo]

> a magnet for grifters who were doing beer bongs while others were learning to code

My experience as a test dev is that testers, especially the ones who can't code, are into credentialism and overly-technical taxonomies that describe their field. I claim people who can't do get certified (and those who make money from the certifiables teach).