[DesiLurker]

regarding social sec & medicare, it is straight up robbery of legal worker. I understand as a nation you have the right to limit immigration as you see fit but if you really are as morally sound as you claim all this money should be refunded to an immigrant if their application is rejected or dropped because the wait was longer than a reasonable human carrier (40years). This is straight up immoral and punishes people who actually played by the rules.

[irrational]

> if you really are as morally sound as you claim

I think only true fanatic Republicans would claim this. Normal Americans would not claim this, in my experience.

[DesiLurker]

you are missing the larger point, it is often heralded that illegal immigration is immoral & the right thing to do is to wait in line and do it legally. Also, America absolutely claims moral high ground on international stage regularly and uses it to justify use of force when needed.

In case there is any doubt about this, the founding war cry for the country was taxation without representation is basically equivalent to slavery. And then civil war with southern states for the same. How is taking away money from people's paycheck for a service that they'll never use and have no representation into not mini-slavery. I mean if you want to steal that money from down-on-their-luck immigrants then why not just create a new taxrate slab for migrant workers so they have a clear view of what they are getting into.

[irrational]

> How is taking away money from people's paycheck for a service that they'll never use and have no representation into not mini-slavery.

It is, which is why I said that American is not morally sound.